Peter Nørkjær

Tillad mig lidt selvpromovering... I denne tråd er der et MD-80 panel, der tager det bedste fra to andre paneler. Du kan også vælge bare at hente et af de to. Velkommen til /Peter

I stand corrected...

Så kom den første MD-80 i snowflake farver. LN-ROS www.airliners.net/open.file/529514/L/ Billedet er skudt i dag, den 10. marts i Stavanger. /Peter

Lad mig lige tilføje, at denne "lille" motor på en 747 yder 1000 hestekræfter. På DC-9 / MD-80 sidder APU'en ikke helt der ude, men omkring den bagerste del af motoren. (Den mørke del man kan se under flyet er udstødning fra APU'en. /Peter

Grundliggende er MD-80eren jo en CD-9'er. Da McDonnell Douglas skulle have godkendt den nye MD-80'er, valgte de, at gøre det som en videreudvikling af DC-9'eren. De kaldte den DC-9-81 og slap dermed for en typegodkendelse af en ny serie. Så kigger du i dørkarmen på en SAS flyver, hvor serienummeret sidder, så vil du se, at deres "MD-80"'ere stadig hedder DC-9-80. Derfor vil jeg nok mere at spørgsmålet mere er, om der overhovedet er en forskel på DC-9-80 og MD-80 serien... Vedrørende dit sidste spørgsmål, så leasede SAS for nogle år tilbage 8-10 styks DC-9-81 af Swissair. De havde den spidse slutning, men elllers er alle SAS fly nu med "Skruetrækker" enden. Her er et billede af en af schweizerne: www.airliners.net/open.file/162769/L/ /Peter

AMEN!!!! Dog ikke med forbindelse til den aktuelle tråd. Mere generelt ment. Emnet er ikke nyt... Se blandt andet denne tråd /Peter

Jge tror alledere der er lavet repaints! Hvis man ser på hjemmesiden kunne det sagtens være sakset ud af fx. FS04 og så pyntet lidt i Photoshop. Skriv til dem! Måske de vil give Jer textures eller logo'er. /Peter

Hvis man ser på deres hjemmeside, så er der to pæne streger mellem deres destinationer. Men flyveren flakser rundt oppe i Norge et sted... Jeg gider altså ikke booke en billet, hvis jeg skal over Bergen for at flyve Malmø - Stockholm... /Peter

Irreterende at du linker til et link der linker til et link... Gør forarbejdet godt nok, og spar os andre for en amsse tid. Jeg orkede ikke klikke mig videre.... /P

Den nu pensioneret mand bag hele konsordiet hedder "Hr. Mærsk Mc-Kinney Møller" Han er søn af "A. P. Møller" der grundlagde alt det der i dag er kendt som "A. P. Møller-Gruppen", som ejer Mærsk. Om A. P. Møller Gruppen Hvordan man så vælger at stave det i internationale relationer er jo valgfrit. Jeg hedder fx også "Nørkjær" til efternavn, men staves "Noerkjaer" i udlandet. HVad hedder jeg så? /Peter

Super Dag! Hvis jeg var i Bodø eller omegn, så var jeg kommet forbi med lidt pizza.

Jeg fandt lige et eksempel på en ATIS her: Glendale ATIS frequency, 119.425 Så den lytter man igennem, og så kalder man op til CLR/GND/TWR/ARR og siger: [color:"red"] [Callsign] with information ___ (Fra ATIS) bla bla bla[/color] /Peter

Slået på målstregen!

[color:"blue"]With Zulu[/color] i din clearence henviser til den ATIS du har (hørt). Inden du kalder på til ATC skal du aflytte vejeret på en ATIS frekvens. Her vil du høre vind, vejr, temp etc. En ATIS har en kendingsbogstav. Her Zulu. Når vejret ændrer sig bliver der lavet en ny AITS, som så får et nyt kendingsbogstav (Der er ingen efter "Z" så den nye kommer til at hedde "Alpha") Når du så kalder på og siger du har "Zulu" ved ATC'en, at du har informeret med vejret som udgivet i ATIS "Z". Hvis der i mellemtiden er kommen nyt vejr vil du af ATC'en få af vide, at "Braathens be advised that newest ATIS is Alpha". Så skal du lytte den nyeste ATIS igennem. /Peter EDIT: [color:"red"]spør ATC om klarering, sier dem kanskje "Braathens 404 with zulu, taxi to and hold short of runway 19L".[/color] ATC'en wil aldrig fortælle dig hvilken ATIS du har. Du fortæller dem hvilken ATIS du har. Hvis den er forældet vil ATC'en til gengæld fortælle dig det. (Sker ikke i FS) Hvis det ikke er dette du skriver om, så har du skrevet din clearence forkert i beskeden. Så skal du lige specificere nærmere hvad de helt præcist siger....

Der er naturligvis STAR og SID samt jetways. De fleste ruteflyvninger flyver efter sådan, og benytter sjældent headings. Men der kan være ting som man skal flyve rundt om, for eksempel ved militære operationer. Det kan også være at man skal dreje for at undgå anden trafik eller for at blive placeret til landinger/efter takeoff. I sådanne tilfælde vil man kunne få en "Turn right hdg 135" eller "turn right 10 deg" Men det er naturligvis også muligt at få en turn direct Mesnali VOR. /Peter

Ha, hvilken herlig ide! www.airliners.net/open.file/434168/L/ /Peter

Det havde vel generelt været fint om man i starten af beskeden skrev: Hvilken sim Hvilket fly Hvilke scenery Hvilke add-ons der ellers er benyttet. /Peter

På dansk TV2's søsterkanal "TV2 Zulu" kan man spille TV-bingo, ganske gratis. Jeg synes I skal tage en kigger på deres hjemmeside www.zulu.dk > Zulu-Bingo > Tjek hovedpræmierne Den bonus-præmie er måske værd at gå efter.... /Peter

www.ais.org.uk Her finder du de rigtige kort. Du skal registrere dig som bruger. /Peter

Aalborg er egentlig ikke så spændende, før du kigger på Ground chartet. Indflyvningen er ret kedelig. Men TWY ind til Apron ligger ca. 2/5 nede af banen når du lander på 26. Derfor gælder det om at lande meget tideligt på banen, og så vurdere om du kan nå at bremse inden denne TWY, ellers skal de til at køre en omvej. Hvis du real-life flyver til Aalborg, vil du opleve, at flyet lige når at lande og så går der et sekund, hvor piloten vurderer om de kan nå at stoppe. Hvis de vurderer det, bremser de ofte så hårdt at du ryger ud af sædet og det hele ryster som er det ved at falde sammen. Så det er kun selve landigen der er lidt sjovere end normalt. Resten er ret kedeligt, men et flot scenery. /Peter

Lad lige mig slå et (lille) slag for Aalborg. Der er flot scenery, men det der gør en Aalborg landign sjov er, at man kan (og bør) bremse af næsten fuld kraft, hvis man skal gøre som i virkeligheden. Så der er travlt når man lander og man bør ikke lade den rulle. Jeg flyver mest ud og hjem til Kastrup, rundt i Danmark (En dejlig halv times adspredelse) og så ruten Oslo-Tromsø-Alta/Hammerfest. /Peter PS og så er det forresten min mors tidligere bil der holder og spotter i Århus (EKAH) af Peter Jensen

[color:"red"]Her er der en røvfuld, som jeg har liggende på computeren. Nogle går igen, men der er også enkelte perler imellem...[/color] AERIAL MANEUVER: Buying a radio station. - Joseph Leff AILERON: (1) Sickly Ronald. - Joseph Leff (2) The sick person is aboard. - Joseph Leff AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL: A game played by airline pilots and air-traffic controllers. The game has no rules and neither side knows how it’s played, but the goal is to prevent flights from arriving on time for passengers to make connecting flights. AIRBORNE: You now have an inheritor. - Joseph Leff AIRFOIL: Reynolds Wrap for manufacturing aircraft wings. AIRLINE: What genealogy studies. - Joseph Leff AIRLINE MEALS: A reminder that you should have eaten before you left. The little bags in the seat backs are for those that wish to try the food. You are to ignore the pointing and snickering of the crew as you eat. AIRPLANE BLONDE: A woman who has bleached her hair but still has a black box. – Playboy AIRPORT TERMINAL: Plane site. - Joseph Leff AIRSPEED: Speed of an airplane. Deduct 25% when listening to a Navy aviator. ALTERNATE AIRPORT: The area directly beyond the active runway when the engine quits on take off. ALTIMETER SETTING: The place where the altimeter sets. Usually hidden by the control column during a near-minimums instrument approach. ANGLE OF ATTACK: Pick-up lines that pilots use. ARRESTING GEAR: A policeman's equipment when used in conjunction with King (LA). ARRIVAL: An opponent. - Joseph Leff BAGGAGE CLAIM: The most far away and difficult area of the airport to find. Usually hidden by numerous signs reading, "Baggage Claim Area." BANK: The folks who hold the mortgage on your aircraft. BARREL ROLL: Sport enjoyed at squadron picnics, usually after the barrels are empty. BI-PLANE: (1) What you'll say to your bird if flying costs keep going up. (2) What aircraft salesmen want customers to do. - Joseph Leff (3) Mom's advice about underwear. - Joseph Leff. BI-PLANES: What aircraft salesmen want customers to do. BUSH PILOT: Flies Air Force One. CARBURETOR ICE: A phenomenon happening to Aero club pilots at exactly the same time they run out of gas. CARRY ON BAG: Any bag you or with help can squeeze in the door of the aircraft. You try and push it under the person next to your seat and hope they don’t notice. Bicycles and trampolines are discouraged. "CLEAR": Warning shouted two seconds after hitting the starter button. CONCOURSE: (1) Where prisoners play golf. (2) A class for ships' helmsmen. - Joseph Leff CONE OF CONFUSION: An area about the size of New Jersey located near the final approach beacon at an airport. CONTRAIL: Followed in order to recapture an escaped prisoner. - Joseph Leff CONTROL TOWER: A small shack on stilts inhabited by government pensioners who can't hear. When they become blind, they are sent to centers. CRAB: The squadron Ops. Officer. CRITICAL ALTITUDE: Minus six feet. CRITICAL ENGINE: That part of your airplane which used to be under the cowl, but is now in intensive care at the maintenance shop. DE-ICER: A device designed to operate under all weather conditions, except icing. DEAD RECKONING: You reckon correctly, or you are. DEPARTURE GATE: This is where the most uncomfortable seats are tested out in the presence of many young and tired children. DIRIGIBLE: Able to be made flexible. - Pat Tinney DOMESTIC FLIGHT: Special excursion for maids and house cleaners. - Stan Kegel ENGINE FAILURE: A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks become filled with air. EXPERT IN TAKEOFFS: (1) An impersonator. (2) A stripper. FIREWALL: Section of aircraft especially designed to allow all engine heat and smoke to fill the cockpit FIRST CLASS: Where the people sit that didn’t throw away all their money on fast food and beer. FLIGHT SCHEDULE: Fictitious reading material to occupy and entertain during a traveler's waiting time. FOG: A natural weather phenomenon which usually occurs around an airport, while the surrounding areas are clear. Fog is controlled by the airlines and is used for flight delays. GLIDING DISTANCE: Half the distance from your present position to the nearest decent landing area at the time of complete power failure. GROSS WEIGHT: Maximum permissible take off weight, plus an extra suitcase, a case of bourbon, rifle, ammo, golf bag, bowling ball, and diving weights. GROUP: A large, loud pack of travelers wanting to get away from it all, whatever that is. The group leader, who has the tickets, usually waits in the bar, spending all the emergency stipend, until five minutes before departure, or until there are no seats left together, whichever occurs last. Reservations agents are prohibited from pre-assigning seats as this may prevent interesting stories for passenger to tell when they get home. HOLDING PATTERN: The term applied to the dogfight in progress over any radio facility serving a terminal airport. HYDROPLANE: An airplane designed to land on a wet runway, 20,000 feet long. IFR: A method of flying by needle and ripcord. LANDING: A controlled mid-air collision with a planet. LANDING FLAP: A 4000' roll out on a 3000' runway. LEAN MIXTURE: Non-alcoholic beer. LEFT BANK: What the robber did when his bag was full of loot. - Paul Benoit MOTOR: Word used by student pilots and Yankees when referring to the engine. NANOSECOND: Time delay built into the stall warning system. NEXT FLIGHT: Always late tomorrow afternoon. ON TIME: An obscure term with unknown meaning. PARASITE DRAG: A pilot who bums a ride back and complains about the service. PASSENGER: A herding creature of widely varying intellect, usually found in pairs or small groups. When frightened or confused these creatures collect into a group called a line. Lines have no set patterns and are usually formed in inconvenient places. PILOT: A large area of open ground on which fruit-filled baked goods are sold. - Cynthia MacGregor POSITION CLOSED: A sign posted at various counter locations which, when interpreted by the passenger, means "Form Line Here." RANGE: Five miles beyond the point where all fuel tanks have become filled with air. RESTROOMS: The cubicle that attracts the fat lady with constipation. The remaining cubicle contains the crew's extra luggage. RICH MIXTURE: What you order at the other guy's promotion party. ROGER: Used when you're not sure what else to say. ROLL: The first design priority for a fully loaded KC-135A. SCHEDULE: This is where you rush to leave your home airport at 5:30 am to arrive at the nearby hub airport where you have a four-hour layover. SERVICE CEILING: Altitude at which cabin crews can serve drinks. SIGN: An airport decoration. Usually unnoticed by all except small children. Its primary function is to hide the locations of various areas of the airport, i.e. gate numbers, restrooms, baggage claims, etc. SPOILERS: The Federal Aviation Administration. STALL: Technique used to explain to the bank why your car payment is late. STEEP BANK: Banks that charge pilots more than 10% interest. TACTICS: What a clock sounds like when it needs fixing. TAIL WIND: Results from eating beans, often causing oxygen deficiency in the immediate vicinity. TICKET: The voucher you will need to rebook with another airline after your flight was canceled. TURN & BANK INDICATOR: An instrument highly ignored by pilots. UP: A chant used by pilots taking off from Colorado Springs, who want to discover the meaning of life. USEFUL LOAD: Volumetric capacity of the aircraft, disregarding weight of cargo. VOR: Radio navigation aid, named after the VORtex effect of pilots trying to home in on it. WINDSOCKS: Socks that need darning. WALK-AROUND: What you do when waiting for weather to clear. YANKEE: Any pilot that asks Houston tower to, "Say again." ZERO: Style and artistry points earned for a gear-up landing. PASSENGER ANNOUNCEMENTS "As we prepare for takeoff, please make sure your tray tables and seat backs are fully upright in their most uncomfortable position." "There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but there are only 4 ways out of this airplane..." "Your seat cushions can be used for floatation, and in the event of an emergency water landing, please take them with our compliments." "We do feature a smoking section on this flight; if you must smoke, contact a member of the flight crew and we will escort you to the wing of the airplane." "Smoking in the lavatories is prohibited. Any person caught smoking in the lavatories will be asked to leave the plane immediately." "Good morning. As we leave Dallas, it's warm, the sun is shining, and the birds are singing. We are going to Charlotte, where it's dark, windy and raining. Why in the world y'all wanna go there I really don't know." Pilot: "Folks, we have reached our cruising altitude now, so I am going to switch the seat belt sign off. Feel free to move about as you wish, but please stay inside the plane till we land...it's a bit cold outside, and if you walk on the wings it affects the flight pattern." And, after landing: "Thank you for flying Delta Business Express. We hope you enjoyed giving us the business as much as we enjoyed taking you for a ride." As we waited just off the runway for another airliner to cross in front of us, some of the passengers were beginning to retrieve luggage from the overhead bins. The head steward announced on the intercom: "This aircraft is equipped with a video surveillance system that monitors the cabin during taxiing. Any passengers not remaining in their seats until the aircraft comes to a full and complete stop at the gate will be strip-searched as they leave the aircraft." "We've reached our cruising altitude now, and I'm turning off the seat belt sign. I'm switching to autopilot, too, so I can come back there and visit with all of you for the rest of the flight." As the plane landed and was coming to a stop at Washington National, a lone voice comes over the loudspeaker: "Whoa, big fella...WHOA..!" "Should the cabin lose pressure, oxygen masks will drop from the overhead area. Please place the bag over your own mouth and nose before assisting children or adults acting like children." "As you exit the plane, please make sure to sure to gather all of your belongings. Anything left behind will be distributed evenly among the flight attendants. Please do not leave children or spouses." "Last one off the plane has to clean it." "If you are so lucky as to be travelling with small children..." And from the pilot during his welcome message: "We are pleased to have some of the best flight attendants in the industry. Unfortunately none of them are on this flight". "That was quite a bump and I know what ya'll are thinking. I'm here to tell you it wasn't the airlines fault, it wasn't the pilot's fault, it wasn't the flight attendants fault...it was the asphalt!" "Welcome aboard Flight XXX, to YYY. To operate your seatbelt, insert the metal tab into the buckle, and pull tight. It works just like every other seatbelt, and if you don't know how to operate one, you probably shouldn't be out in public unsupervised." "In the event of a sudden loss of cabin pressure, oxygen masks will descend from the ceiling. Stop screaming, grab the mask, and pull it over your face. If you have a small child travelling with you, secure your mask before assisting with theirs. If you are travelling with two small children, decide now which one you love more. Weather at our destination is 50 degrees with some broken clouds, but they'll try to have them fixed before we arrive. Thank you, and remember, nobody loves you, or your money, more than XXXXX Airlines." After a particularly bad landing:"Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Birmingham. Please remain in your seats with your seatbelts fastened while the Captain taxis what's left of our airplane to the gate!" "We ask you to please remain seated as Captain Kangaroo bounces us to the terminal." After a particularly rough landing during a thunderstorm in Memphis, a flight attendant on a Northwest flight announced: "Please take care when opening the overhead lockers, because after a landing like that, sure as hell everything has shifted". "Should the cabin lose pressure, oxygen masks will drop from the overhead area, Please place bag over your own mouth and nose before assisting children or adults acting like children". "As you exit the plane, please make sure to gather all of your belongings. Anything left behind will be distributed evenly among the flight attendants. Please do not leave children or spouses". An airline pilot wrote that on this particular flight he had hammered his aircraft onto the runway really hard. The airline had a policy which required the First Officer to stand at the door whilst the passengers disembarked, smile and give them a "thanks for flying XYZ airlines". He said that in light of his bad landing, he had a hard time looking passengers in the eye, thinking that someone would have a smart comment. Finally, everyone had got off except for a little old lady walking with a cane. She said "Sonny, mind if I ask you a question?". "Why no Ma'am" said the First Officer "what is it?". To which the little old lady replied "did we land, or were we shot down?". "We'd like to thank you folks for flying with us today. And the next time you get the insane urge to go blasting through the skies in a pressurised metal tube, we hope you'll think of us here at US Airways". SOME AVIATION SAYINGS Takeoff's are optional. Landings are mandatory. Explaining the use of the controls to a student: "If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger, if you pull the stick back they get smaller. (Unless you pull the stick too far back, then they get bigger again very quickly)" Flying isn't dangerous; crashing is dangerous! The propeller is just a big fan to keep the pilot cool. The proof? Make it stop, and watch the pilot break out in a sweat. Speed is life, altitude is life insurance. No one ever collided with the sky. The trick to flying is to throw yourself at the ground, and miss! It's generally a good idea to keep the pointy end going forwards as much as possible. The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. Every one knows the definition of a 'good' landing is one you can walk away from. But a 'great' landing is one where you can use the airplane again afterwards. The probability of survival is equal to the angle of arrival. You know you've landed gear-up when it takes full power to taxi clear of the runway. Helicopters don't really fly - they're so ugly that the earth repels them. There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are. A fool and his money are soon flying more airplane than he can handle. Gravity never loses -- the best you can hope for is a draw! Hangar fliers go higher, farther, and faster, every time they re-tell the story! NEWEST ADDITIONS Beech Baron: Uh, ATC, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747. ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. Pilot: "Approach, Acme Flt 202, with you at 12,000' and 40 DME." Approach: "Acme 202, cross 30 DME at and maintain 8000'." Pilot: "Approach, 202's unable that descent rate." Approach: "What's the matter 202? Don't you have speed brakes?" Pilot: "Yup. But they're for my mistakes. Not yours." A plane was taking off from Kennedy Airport. After it reached a comfortable cruising altitude, the captain made an announcement over the intercom, "Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. Welcome to Flight Number 293, non-stop from New York to Los Angeles. The weather ahead is good and therefore we should have a smooth and uneventful flight. Now sit back and relax.......... OH MY GOD!" Deadly silence........... Then, the captain came back on the intercom and said, "Ladies and Gentlemen, I am so sorry if I scared you earlier, but while I was talking, the flight attendant brought me a cup of coffee and spilled the hot coffee in my lap. You should see the front of my pants!" A passenger in Coach said, "That's nothing. He should see the back of mine!" Erstes NOTAM (während eines kalten Winters in Boston): 'KBXX runway 14/32 braking action NIL as reported by vehicle.' Zweites NOTAM (nach wenigen Minuten): 'KBXX airport closed UFN due to vehicle accident on runway 14/32.' Controller (bei sehr turbulentem Wetter über Afrika): Sabena 123 maintain contact with Brazzaville. Pilot: Control, I can't even maintain contact with my own seat! Controller: "CRX 500, are you on course to SUL?" Pilot: "More or less..." Controller) "So proceed a little bit more to SUL." Anflug Stuttgart: Tower: Lufthansa 5680, reduce to 170 knots. Pilot: Das is ja wie in Frankfurt. Da gibts auch nur 210 und 170 Knoten... aber wir sind ja flexibel. Tower: Wir auch! Reduce to 173 knots. Tower: Delta Oscar Mike, squawk 0476. Pilot: Say again. Tower: Squawk 0476. Pilot: Four, zero...? Tower: Wollen Sie'n leichteren haben ? Controller: Unknown aircraft crossing CTR without clearance, identify yourself! Pilot: I'm not silly! Tower zu einem Flugzeug, das im kurzen Endteil gegen einen 30-Knoten-Gegenwind ankämpft: DW 160, your landing clearence expires in a minute!

Jeg kan prøve. Men mit tyske er nok ikke så godt, at det bliver lige så sjovt, men så forstår du pointen... Lufthansa-Pilot (Ved indflyvning til Berlin lige inden Brünkendorf VOR): "Hvorfor skal vi ned i den højde så tideligt? Du ved vel, at flyvning i så lav højde er meget uøkonomisk for os". Controller: "Det beklager jeg meget, men vi har meget trafik fra Tegel i deres retning, som de kan støde sammen med" Pilot: "Når ja okay, dét ville nok meget mere uøkonomisk... " Håber det var nogenlunde korrekt... Lad mig også lige komme med denne (oversat fra en tysk side): /Peter

Uenig. SVA har altid ville have piloter der rent faktisk kan flyve og ikke cowboys. Derfor er den en test, hvor man viser, at man kan flyve en STAR og lande forholdsvist stabilt. Hvis man finder det idiotisk, er der jo intet der forhindrer, at man flyver under SAS'navnet uden at være SVA'er. Men SVA har et ønske om at være synonym med kvalitet og rutinerede piloter, det kan man læse af deres hjemmeside. Derfor. /Peter (SVA662)

Hæ, det er sku sådan en landing jeg altid laver! :-D /Peter